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 Post subject: "Forget chubby, keep it slim! Says a new controversial.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:19 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... -zero.html

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Despite many slamming size zero models - even Victoria Beckham banned them from her fashion show last year - the runway waif has now been backed by top academics.

A new report warns that getting rid of super-skinny models could worsen the nation's obesity epidemic.

Researchers Dr Davide Dragone and Dr Luca Savorelli, from the University of Bologna, Italy claim that introducing larger models will increase unhealthy eating habits.
Runway waifs: Despite campaigns to ban size zero a report now claims that getting rid of skinny models could worsen the obesity epidemic

Runway waifs: Despite campaigns to ban size zero a report now claims that getting rid of skinny models could worsen the obesity epidemic

With obesity currently costing the NHS £4.2 billion, a figure is set to double by 2050, the report claims that using larger models would lower the incentive for people to lose weight.

In their paper entitled Thinness and Obesity: A Model of Food Consumption, Health Concerns, and Social Pressure they write:

'If being overweight is the average condition and the ideal body weight is thin, increasing the ideal body weight may increase welfare by reducing social pressure.


'By contrast, health is on average reduced, since people depart even further from their healthy weight.

'Given that in the US and in Europe people are on average overweight, we conclude that these policies, even when are welfare improving, may foster the obesity epidemic.'

Their research, which was presented at the Royal Economic Society's annual conference in London, argues that increasing the size of the fashion models will alter people's perception of the ideal weight.
Controversial: Many designers have now banned size zero models from their runway shows

Controversial: Many designers have now banned size zero models from their runway shows

And while it may help those with eating disorders, it would be detrimental to the nation as skinny models provide an incentive for weight control.

This conflicts with recent efforts to eradicate size zero following a reported 80% rise in the number of young girls admitted to hospital with anorexia in England over the last decade.

Simon Lawton-Smith from the Mental Health Foundation, which offers advice to sufferers of eating disorders, argued: 'The idealising of underweight models can set unrealistic expectations.

'A perceived failure to meet these expectations can lead to low self-esteem, anxiety and serious mental health problems such as depression.

'These in turn can increase the likelihood of developing an eating disorder.'

Since 2006 there has been an agreement between Italy, Spain and Germany and the fashion industry to introduce new rules requiring a higher minimum size for models.

There has also been an increase in the production of larger sizes for high-street fashion labels.

Dr Dragone and Dr Savorelli continue: 'To promote chubby fashion models when obesity is one of the major problems of industrialised countries seems to be a paradox.

'Everyone has to trade off in life a number of things like the pleasure of eating and going to the gym or something as a cost.

'So if you just fix the average healthy weight then maybe you will throw up some incentives to be thin.'

A recent study published in the Journal of Consumer Research 'Seeing is Eating' also claims that what we see impacts our diet.

Authors Margaret Campbell and Gina Mohr explain: 'Seeing someone overweight leads to a temporary decrease in a person's own felt commitment to his or her health goal.'
Keep it slim: A new study claims larger models could be detrimental to the nation's health as skinny models provide an incentive for weight control

Keep it slim: A new study claims larger models could be detrimental to the nation's health as skinny models provide an incentive for weight control

In one of their studies participants ate twice as many cookies after they were shown images of someone who was overweight, even if they had goals to maintain a healthy weight.

They continue: 'Thinking about personal health goals and reminding oneself of the undesirable effects of eating indulgent food at the time of possible consumption can help people avoid eating too much.'

A House of Lords debate earlier this month addressing the UK's growing obesity crisis, looking at restricted diets as a solution.

Lord McColl of Dulwich said: 'The obesity epidemic is killing millions, costing billions and the cure is free...eat less and live.

'Will Her Majesty’s Government embrace the essential fact that reducing food intake is five times more effective than exercise?'

Lord Campbell-Savours, an advocate of health reform added: 'We do not talk about whether people are fat or thin.

'We have to get over that because a huge problem is developing, in part due to an element of political incorrectness which is reflected in how the media and the industry treat the subject.'

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Sooooo...it's better to abuse these "skinny waifs" who often develop eating disorders and certainly risk their health rather than showing normal people in the fashion industry because it will "encourage" obesity? I think it's the "skinny waifs" who were forgotten in this article.

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Sooooo...it's better to abuse these "skinny waifs" who often develop eating disorders and certainly risk their health rather than showing normal people in the fashion industry because it will "encourage" obesity? I think it's the "skinny waifs" who were forgotten in this article.


Agreed.

Let's make sure obesity doesn't rise but it doesn't matter if anorexia/bulimia does, those 'skinny waifs' don't matter. We're bored of all that now....

Honestly, I just give up with 'reports and studies'.....

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Yes, because thinspiration will solve obesity.

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I know, right?

completely outrageous... and then they wonder why more and more people are getting eating disorders... ugh

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I am so shocked.

How can anyone be so dumb?

Its ludicrous.

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I'm glad so many of the comments are arguing against it. Thanks again, Daily Fail.

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Skinny waifs are a reason I wouldn't want to loose weight. Personally, I wouldn't want to be that thin. It's not natural; I respect my body more than that. If non-skinny models were on the runway, I don't think it would make much of a difference. I know very few people who aspire to be models anyway, so what difference would it make? Oh, what bollocks!


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Oh bloody hell, when did the fashion world get a lobotomy? :-?

I still don't understand why we can't just have models between BMI 18 and 25. Healthy. Still slim. Much easier to get than size zero twigs, surely? They act like just recruiting HEALTHY, not obese, not emaciated people is impossible and implausible.

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Thanks again, Daily Fail.


HAHA I like that ;)

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Isn't it just great that as the obesity crisis rises, then so does the rate of people getting EDs? Tell me where their logic makes sense!

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A note on the obesity 'crisis', everyone forgets that weight is a relative thing. Two people could have the exact same BMI and have very different body compositions. Then there are people like myself who are very slim at a BMI of 22 (not there now but I've been there a few times). I don't look fat at an overweight BMI, I look overweight right now at an 'obese' one. Go figure. Bones and muscles and organs must weigh something!

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Jess, i couldnt agree more. Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? What happened to being healthy? If youre generally fit and well, both mind and body, why cant ayone model? What happened to the inbetweeeeen?! I havent read the full article yet because im on my phone, but when i get home...

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komich wrote:
A note on the obesity 'crisis', everyone forgets that weight is a relative thing. Two people could have the exact same BMI and have very different body compositions. Then there are people like myself who are very slim at a BMI of 22 (not there now but I've been there a few times). I don't look fat at an overweight BMI, I look overweight right now at an 'obese' one. Go figure. Bones and muscles and organs must weigh something!


Ah, thank you. I have a BMI of about 26, but my waist to hip ratio is 0.8. According to the BBC, my waist to hip ratio is good, but my BMI is 'overweight'. You can't sum someone up by their BMI. We all carry weight differently.

Why aren't people allowed to be different? Why aren't we allowed have different assets in different places because we're all unique? Why must slim be beautiful? We don't all share the same ideals. Some people think slim is beautiful and that's fine, but women should be allowed to be themselves and not be pressured by society in a body type that is not them. In my opinion (which not everyone in the world will agree with) everyone is beautiful.


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The body composition that she's discussing is not referring to where your weight is stored --- rather HOW it is stored --- ie fat or muscle.

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