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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:43 pm 
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So it begins....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/79087 ... vices.html

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* A reduction in acute hospital beds, including those for the mentally ill, with targets to discourage GPs from sending patients to hospitals and reduce the number of people using accident and emergency departments.


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A “turnaround” plan drawn up by Peterborough PCT intends to make almost £100 million of savings by 2013.

Its cuts include closing nursing and residential homes and services for the mentally ill, sending 500 fewer patients to hospital each month, and cutting £17 million from acute and accident and emergency services.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:53 pm 
Yup... was kinda expected although appauling especially as one of the Lib Dems major policies was to redirect NHS money towards the mentally ill as it's so neglected but they've just rolled over to the torries on this. I know one thing for sure I'm going to get to my doctor asap to get disability funding for support at uni as I just think they're going to cut it all very very soon... It's going to be a bad time to be mentally ill in Britain I think.

They're going to reacess every single person on disability benefits as well.. they want to get 1 in 5 people off of it and back into work or just plain off it without a job. I do not believe that as many as a 1/5 of Britain's disabled people on disabled benefits are able to cope without their benefits.


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Does this include Scotland? Because I don't think my dad can cope with another assessment...

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Does this include Scotland? Because I don't think my dad can cope with another assessment...


I don't think so but I don't actually know.. I think Scotland gets to pick what they're doing they're just given the budget by the English paliament aren't they? So depends on how Scotland decides its cutting it's budget.. I'll do some searching online in a bit to check my facts and make sure I'm not saying stuff I think is true but isn't...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:42 am 
Here's what I've found so far. This refers to incapacity benefit which I think is the same thing but I'm not 100% sure.. and I don't know if this affects Scotland but far as I know it doesn't.
And I got my orginal figure wrong. It's 1 in 5 not 1 in 3 they want to get off it..

Q&A Incapacity benefit Explained

New benefit system labelled Unfit

Welfare: Can The Tories Save Billions in Benefits?


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I think you're right- Scotland is different. Those links you've posted are really good, thanks

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I think you're right- Scotland is different. Those links you've posted are really good, thanks


You're welcome :). Researching this stuff is a bit of a hobby of mine atm :P.
I'm glad it's not going to affect your father. I've heard from other people who've had to go through it that getting assessed is really stressful and time consuming. I know someone who's son was born deaf, he will never be able to hear but yet he has to go to the doctor every few months to be reacessed and check he's still deaf so he can get his funding for specialist uni equipment and after uni for other support because getting a job when you're deaf is rather hard I imagine. It's completely insane, it's not like his hearing is going to magically work and he knows that, his doctor knows that but the government insists on the assessments to check. It's on that sort of thing they ought to be making cuts as it's not necessairy to do that..


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:52 am 
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This is going to affect all of the western world experiencing a demographic shift. Baby Boomer retirement, and not enough young people replacing them... not enough immigrants off-setting the shift. Part of the problem is in the Western World we've made it so costly to acquire a higher education to do the various roles in society that we have... that a bricklayer couldn't go off and become a nurse when there was more need for nurses than roads. We have everything so rigid, with an expectation that every person will do the role they shape themselves to do all their lives. This makes us all inflexible, and makes breakdowns in our social and economic systems all the more likely. In Canada, we're already starting to have a "two-tiered" system of healthcare where the rich can go to a private clinic to avoid the years long waiting lists that in some cases kill the waiting patient (or otherwise keep them from working and contributing to the economy while waiting for care). We need new systems. What we have now is unsustainable and I think I've said as much before. It isn't just England. It will be the US and Canada... and goodness I don't know what other countries. Look to your statistical information on different age demographics to see if there are more young in the workforce than old in retirement... and you'll get a sense of whether or not collapses or at least interruptions to normal systems are to be expected. Rather than panic at these disruptions, we should prepare... and build new systems that are less convoluted and will help more people as much as possible with less resources. (And by resources I don't mean something abstract like oil or minerals... I mean people.)


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